SG meeting 2013.04.30

[4/30/13 1:55:41 PM] Olga Caprotti added Aarne Ranta to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:55:57 PM] Olga Caprotti added Jordi Saludes to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:56:23 PM] Olga Caprotti added Mateva to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:56:32 PM] Olga Caprotti added borislav popov to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:56:41 PM] Olga Caprotti added Lauri Carlson to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:56:51 PM] Olga Caprotti added Norbert E. Fuchs to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:57:00 PM] Olga Caprotti: aarne
[4/30/13 1:57:40 PM] Olga Caprotti: HERE
[4/30/13 1:57:48 PM] Olga Caprotti: do you see this conversation?
[4/30/13 1:58:03 PM] Aarne Ranta: Yes SG April Call
[4/30/13 1:58:18 PM] Olga Caprotti: who else needs to be added?
[4/30/13 1:58:23 PM] Aarne Ranta: Be Informed
[4/30/13 1:58:32 PM] Olga Caprotti added Jeroen van Grondelle to this conversation
[4/30/13 1:58:42 PM] Olga Caprotti: is lluis attending?
[4/30/13 1:58:43 PM] Aarne Ranta: Or Joris?
[4/30/13 1:58:50 PM] Aarne Ranta: Yes, Lluis too
[4/30/13 1:59:07 PM] Jordi Saludes: Lluis want to attend: Please add him
[4/30/13 1:59:22 PM] Olga Caprotti: i do not have his skype id
[4/30/13 1:59:27 PM] Olga Caprotti: can you try to add him?
[4/30/13 1:59:36 PM] Olga Caprotti: Joris is out of office
[4/30/13 1:59:52 PM] Aarne Ranta added lluismarquez to this conversation
[4/30/13 2:00:07 PM] Aarne Ranta: Shall I start the call
[4/30/13 2:00:27 PM] Olga Caprotti: yes please
[4/30/13 2:00:34 PM] Jordi Saludes: lluismarquez
[4/30/13 2:00:49 PM] Aarne Ranta: Call started, 1 hour 40 minutes 37 seconds
[4/30/13 2:01:16 PM] Olga Caprotti: very windy now
[4/30/13 2:01:22 PM] Jordi Saludes: yes
[4/30/13 2:01:33 PM] Olga Caprotti: I hear only static
[4/30/13 2:01:39 PM] Jordi Saludes: better
[4/30/13 2:01:45 PM] Olga Caprotti: yes, better now
[4/30/13 2:02:06 PM] Norbert E. Fuchs: Static again.
[4/30/13 2:02:24 PM] Mateva: yes
[4/30/13 2:02:29 PM] Olga Caprotti: I will minute
[4/30/13 2:02:29 PM] Norbert E. Fuchs: yes
[4/30/13 2:03:13 PM] Olga Caprotti: Agenda
[4/30/13 2:03:29 PM] Olga Caprotti: 1. status report: problems with last deliverables
[4/30/13 2:03:42 PM] Olga Caprotti: 2. final project meeting schedule open day
[4/30/13 2:03:49 PM] Olga Caprotti: 3. review organization
[4/30/13 2:03:55 PM] Olga Caprotti: 4. other matters
[4/30/13 2:04:24 PM] Lauri Carlson: can you hear me (Lauri)
[4/30/13 2:04:28 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: UGOT status report - we delivered d8.3 the cult heritage
[4/30/13 2:04:46 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: we worked on presentations, exceeded travel budget
[4/30/13 2:05:05 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: only 2 or 3 will attend final proj. meeting
[4/30/13 2:05:28 PM] Lauri Carlson: can you hear me?
[4/30/13 2:05:35 PM] Jordi Saludes: no
[4/30/13 2:05:48 PM] Lauri Carlson: i can hear you but mic not working
[4/30/13 2:06:02 PM] Olga Caprotti: UPC: from LM
[4/30/13 2:06:42 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: wp5 from cristina, worked mostly on deliverable, done at 99%, final polishing, basically ready - re-evaluation of the systems
[4/30/13 2:07:09 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: meritxell has worked on deliverable for wp7 - and done a paper for MT summit
[4/30/13 2:07:59 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: for wp5-wp9 evaluation done automatically but still need to do the human evaluation in wp9
[4/30/13 2:08:11 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: this eval could be critical, has to be done manually
[4/30/13 2:08:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: for the flagship, would like a prototype demoing the translation of patents - we have a online demo
[4/30/13 2:09:43 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: we have a online translation engine, but it is slow - works on our machine, we have issues with local installation of GF, must port it to machine in UGOT. if we need to do it using the webservice, it is more work and we must discuss division of labor
[4/30/13 2:09:51 PM] Aarne Ranta: patent server who when where
[4/30/13 2:10:24 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: ok for the patent server, who? when? where? important questions.
[4/30/13 2:10:53 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: manual eval of patents, difficult to find experts - they are looking for people
[4/30/13 2:10:55 PM] Lauri Carlson: I changed to another machine, can you join me again
[4/30/13 2:12:05 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: @ontotext, do you have contacts for human evaluation of patents?
[4/30/13 2:12:39 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: might have resources for German, but not sure, must ask. Let us set some timeframe for this task
[4/30/13 2:13:15 PM] Olga Caprotti: are we back?
[4/30/13 2:13:43 PM] Lauri Carlson: in the chat yes, but no voice
[4/30/13 2:14:51 PM] Olga Caprotti: lauri, do you hear us?
[4/30/13 2:15:20 PM] Lauri Carlson: yes now I can but what about you hearing me
[4/30/13 2:15:40 PM] Olga Caprotti: @LC, we will test when your report comes
[4/30/13 2:16:01 PM] Aarne Ranta: Eng-Ger Eng-Fre
[4/30/13 2:16:33 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: we need human evaluator for patents translations in eng-ger, eng-fre
[4/30/13 2:16:50 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR:  task managed by Jussi, as part of WP9
[4/30/13 2:16:55 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: will check
[4/30/13 2:17:18 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: will ask Jussi to send to you the scope of the task
[4/30/13 2:17:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: matter of hours
[4/30/13 2:18:56 PM] Olga Caprotti: LM: regarding wp7, the system can do queries in eng and fre, no german yet
[4/30/13 2:19:28 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: also the french grammar is a bit flawed, ramona promised to fix it
[4/30/13 2:19:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: in the query grammars
[4/30/13 2:20:31 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: about wp6, dissemination to madrid, emath meeting. talked to open universities an dvirtual uni
[4/30/13 2:20:47 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: polishing installation of d6.3
[4/30/13 2:21:08 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: trying ubuntu
[4/30/13 2:22:12 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: concerned about quality of italian -  fixing it in mathtalk
[4/30/13 2:22:24 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: request of sentences
[4/30/13 2:22:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS, OC: we have split the task
[4/30/13 2:23:03 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: we may include conjectures
[4/30/13 2:23:50 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: false statements could be mistaken as translation errors
[4/30/13 2:24:05 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: proofs that fail reveal a lot of the theorem prover
[4/30/13 2:26:02 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: maybe we mark false statements by F to make sure they are not taken as translation mistakes
[4/30/13 2:27:04 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: presentation also under progress
[4/30/13 2:27:13 PM] Olga Caprotti: JS: how many slides?
[4/30/13 2:27:29 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: more a limit on length of presentation
[4/30/13 2:28:06 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: 6 minutes at the senate - just saw it today.
[4/30/13 2:29:30 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: google hangout call had no answers
[4/30/13 2:29:44 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: was waiting for such an invite
[4/30/13 2:30:02 PM] Olga Caprotti: @MM, it is in the MOLTO page on +Google
[4/30/13 2:30:25 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: good to rehearse live in your group
[4/30/13 2:30:31 PM] Mateva: I guess I get no notifications there...
[4/30/13 2:30:52 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: will invite MM to +Google page.
[4/30/13 2:31:10 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: working on wp7 and wp8.
[4/30/13 2:31:44 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: deliverables, 7.3 my work, and 8.3 mostly mariana and partly me. MT paper with txell
[4/30/13 2:32:11 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: museum prototype non finished, improve sparql grammar, clean dbpedia data, expose pictures
[4/30/13 2:32:37 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: we have national vacation 1-6 may
[4/30/13 2:32:51 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: would like to have painting images today
[4/30/13 2:33:08 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: for patents, still have to add german, will go fast when we have grammars
[4/30/13 2:33:21 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: d43a, deliverable
[4/30/13 2:33:30 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: some bug fixes to eclipse
[4/30/13 2:33:52 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: have not yet been able to use eclipse plugin
[4/30/13 2:34:47 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: have you used the Eclipse plugin?
[4/30/13 2:35:00 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: we created a wizard for it.
[4/30/13 2:35:23 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: our wizard is not generic enough, it is crafted for our SPARQL endpoint
[4/30/13 2:36:09 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: extra work will be delayed until demos are done
[4/30/13 2:36:15 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: screencast planned
[4/30/13 2:39:00 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: shall we have the pdf on the main page?
[4/30/13 2:40:19 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: about the voting?
[4/30/13 2:40:41 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: voting should be finished very soon
[4/30/13 2:41:11 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: we finish the voting today
[4/30/13 2:41:30 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: we do it by finalizing the program of the meeting
[4/30/13 2:42:01 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: my opinion is that all presentations are good enough
[4/30/13 2:42:06 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: I agree
[4/30/13 2:42:17 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: many improvements still needed
[4/30/13 2:42:56 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: also during the Barcelona meeting we will improve the presentations
[4/30/13 2:43:20 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: advisory board will comment too
[4/30/13 2:43:57 PM] Olga Caprotti: MM: should we present the software or the screencast?
[4/30/13 2:44:17 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: let's have the films ready - more convincing if we show the sw
[4/30/13 2:47:52 PM] Jordi Saludes: http://upcommons.upc.edu/
[4/30/13 2:47:55 PM] Mateva: http://www.ontotext.com/publications
[4/30/13 2:48:10 PM] Norbert E. Fuchs: Olga, there is an echo of your voice.
[4/30/13 2:48:16 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: mention the open access archive
[4/30/13 2:48:29 PM] Olga Caprotti:  OC: reference list
[4/30/13 2:49:45 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: d11.3 last one, we are working on it
[4/30/13 2:50:13 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: expected 20 may - we have 30 participants in evaluation
[4/30/13 2:50:25 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: some participants have not even done stage 1
[4/30/13 2:50:34 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: we wait until we get these
[4/30/13 2:50:56 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: there cannot be furtehr delay
[4/30/13 2:51:06 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: tobias employment ends today
[4/30/13 2:51:18 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: he continues part-time as supervisor
[4/30/13 2:51:36 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: we sent sentences to Jussi but he was not happy with sentences that made not sense
[4/30/13 2:52:28 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: still have to do screencast, KK reviewed all presentations, not so much feedback on our acewiki
[4/30/13 2:52:57 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: we worked a bit on ace and ape, added exponentiation
[4/30/13 2:53:13 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: KK, Victor, NEF will be in BCN
[4/30/13 2:53:22 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: KK and NEF attend review
[4/30/13 2:53:41 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: employment extend to mid june
[4/30/13 2:53:58 PM] Olga Caprotti: NEF: @AR pls fix date of review
[4/30/13 2:54:16 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: i agree but the PO has not answered
[4/30/13 2:54:33 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: will ask again
[4/30/13 2:55:28 PM] Olga Caprotti: AR: we will decide what to present at the review in BCN
[4/30/13 2:56:20 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: UHEL, wp9 jussi is hard pressed
[4/30/13 2:56:36 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: some work he cannot do because no material and no testers
[4/30/13 2:56:47 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: wp6 examples missing
[4/30/13 2:57:11 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: dutch materials from BI was never seen - probably not included
[4/30/13 2:57:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: patent case, no response from EPO as human evaluator of patents
[4/30/13 2:57:49 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: probably have to hire experts
[4/30/13 2:59:11 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: how about matrixware people? would they know patents translators?
[4/30/13 2:59:21 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: check with Seppo about Neil
[4/30/13 3:00:14 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: harvesting terms and converting to GF demo in the works
[4/30/13 3:00:42 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: inari has finished d3.3 - she has a version
[4/30/13 3:00:57 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC: n.tipper@matrixware.com
[4/30/13 3:01:44 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: the platform chosen for it is already on our site for some years
[4/30/13 3:02:16 PM] Olga Caprotti: OC:  have some tools been integrated?
[4/30/13 3:02:38 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: the translations we produced were not interesting enough
[4/30/13 3:03:12 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: the robust translations could be a candidate
[4/30/13 3:04:14 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: the localization industry could probably be convinced more than the translation industry
[4/30/13 3:05:10 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: because of the Finnish regulation - we have to let people take holiday
[4/30/13 3:05:24 PM] Olga Caprotti: LC: most people will be on holidays
[4/30/13 3:07:19 PM] Olga Caprotti: http://www.molto-project.eu/event/molto-final-project-meeting-barcelona-...
[4/30/13 3:21:13 PM] Lluís Màrquez: I have to leave. Still haven't had lunch and starving! We (Cristina-Meritxell-I) will respond to the final proposal of the schedule. Bye
[4/30/13 3:21:25 PM] Olga Caprotti: ciao - thanks
[4/30/13 3:22:28 PM] Mateva: sorry, I am on wireless in this room and it seems to be inconsistent
[4/30/13 3:41:29 PM] Aarne Ranta: Call ended1 hour 40 minutes 37 seconds